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Re: [StrongED] Re: StrongED 4.70a13 available



In message <574661f22elist01@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
          Martin <list01@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On 13 Oct in article <26e4564657.fjgraute@xxxxxxxxx>,
>    Fred Graute <fjgraute@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > In message <574608ada8list01@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >           Martin <list01@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> [Snip]
> 
> > > In the absence of any (obvious) instructions in the zip, what is
> > > the recommended way to update !StrEd_cfg & !StrongED from a12?
> > > Just copy new over old, or remove old and copy new?
> 
> > You should never copy new over old. Given the many files and modes
> > that make up StrongED it's unlikely that the internal structure
> > remains the same over time. If you drop new over old the result may
> > be orphaned files/directories or in worst case a non-working
> > StrongED.
> 
> > Example: the AppBasic mode included with 4.70a13 comes with an
> > updated Complete add-on that has had its internals reorganised to
> > tidy it up and to prepare for future changes. If you copy new over
> > old then a number of files would be left in there that are no
> > longer needed which may result in confusion later on.
> 
> > To update to 4.70a13:
> 
> >  - Rename/move 4.70a12 and put 4.70a13 in its place.
> >  - Copy modes not already present in 4.70a13 from 4.70a12
> >  - If running, quit StrongED and start 4.70a13
> 
> Thanks Fred - I had a vague feeling that was the case.
> I would suggest that because it is normal for most apps to just drag
> new over old,

I've never really liked that way of updating applications. Largely for 2
reasons:

 - It forces authors to keep the internal structure of an application
   the same. Maybe not a problem for small apps but for more complex
   applications it usually is. I note that Zap's !Help file also warns
   not to copy new over old.

 - It can lead to user laziness, they just drag new over old without
   reading the instructions. This may cause issues which frustrate the
   user and possible also the author who has to deal with requests for
   support - resulting from the user not reading the instructions.

> to avoid SE problems the process should be included in all SE
> releases?

Until now I'd always assumed that users who run test releases know what
they are doing. The main purpose of such releases is to try out the new
features to shake out any bugs, or how it needs to be changed/improved.

It seems that I was wrong in this so I'll add the Install & Upgrade
files to future test releases. Thanks for the suggestion.

Cheers,
Fred.

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