Re: [StrongED] StrongHelp 2.89 available

[Peter Young <pnyoung@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 16 Jan 2017  Fred Graute <fjgraute@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> In message <cf2f42ff55.pnyoung@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>           Peter Young <pnyoung@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>> On 15 Jan 2017  Peter Young <pnyoung@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 15 Jan 2017  Fred Graute <fjgraute@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>>> In message <6e6de2fe55.pnyoung@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>           Peter Young <pnyoung@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>>>> On 15 Jan 2017  Fred Graute <fjgraute@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm pleased to announce that StrongHelp 2.89 is now available from my
>>>>>> website: http://www.stronged.iconbar.com/fjg/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, Fred, but I'm afraid I've discovered a gotcha. Trying out 2.89
>>>>> it seems to work with all manuals except for Messenger Pro's. This
>>>>> gives:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 15 Jan 15:54:01 000 000000D6: Error from (unknown): File
>>>>> 'StrongHelp_Lookup' not found
>> 
>>>> I cannot reproduce this with my Messenger manual here. Which version are
>>>> you using and how are you accessing the manual?
>> 
>>> I might have an idea as to what's causing the problem, but I probably
>>> won't have time to look into it tomorrow. I'll report back in due
>>> course
>> 
>> Got a bit more time than I had thought, but still puzzled. It's
>> something to do with where MPro keeps its manual, in
>> !Boot.Resources.!Manuals.Root.

> That location is fine. I've been able to reproduce the error message. It
> happens when you have run 2.89, quit it and then run 2.86 (or older).
> This is because the older versions don't know the *StrongHelp_Lookup
> command (they still use the old name *StrongHelp).

Thanks again, Fred, and I'm glad it's not just me :-)  However, it 
gets odder. I've been out since this morning, and coming back, with 
StrongHelp 2.89 being seen at setup, Messenger Pro also been seen at 
startup but not then run, I find: Run MPro, click on Help, and a 
transient message comes up, not recorded by WimpLog "Unable to load 
SCSI::SSD.$.Messenger" (had to reboot several times to make sure I'd 
copied that correctly), and 2.98 is run and no help file appears. Then 
try to do the same again without rebooting, and StrongHelp 2.89 runs 
and the correct manual appears.

> StrongHelp 2.86 is included with Messenger so maybe that's where it's
> coming from. Still a bit puzzling though as Messenger will only run its
> internal copy of StrongHelp if StrongHelp$Dir is unset.

Just to make sure that what I thought I was doing was what I thought I 
was doing, I did an reboot, and before running either StrongHelp or 
Messenger Pro, I get:

*Show Messenger$Dir :
Messenger$Dir : SCSI::SSD.$.Internet.!Messenger

so MPro has been seen

and

*Show StrongHelp$Dir
StrongHelp$Dir : SCSI::SSD.$.Utilities.!StrongHlp

which is where 2.89 lives.

All very weird, but at least I get the help file at the second 
attempt.

Best wishes,

Peter.

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