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Re: [StrongED] Re: MiniTime on ARMX6

On 22 Dec 2016  Fred Graute <fjgraute@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> In message <40a995f255.pnyoung@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>           Peter Young <pnyoung@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


>> My brain hurts! Maybe Fred can make sense of this?

> Afraid not, what you're describing seems impossible. The copy of Toolbox
> 1.57 in your ROM has been replaced by (a softloaded) 1.52 (which is most
> likely in !Boot somewhere).

I've looked for it in Boot, using TextSeek looking in Obey and Desktop 
files, and it doesn't find any mention of Toolbox.

> Toolbox modules cannot be replaced when they have active clients so it
> must have happened before you ran Transient. However that should have
> led to Transient complaining that 1.53 isn't present.

I've realised that I had mis-remembered what Fred said when I replied 
to Chris just now; well, the caffeine hadn't reached the brain cell in 
adequate amounts.

I've now looked at the !Run files of all the apps loaded *before* 
Transient, and there's no mention there of Toolbox.

> The only way I can see this happening is if the check for Toolbox 1.53
> in Transient isn't executed (BTW are you sure that check is in the !Run
> file?).

Yes, it's there, in !Transient.StartUp.Modules:

RMEnsure Toolbox       0.00 RMLoad System:modules.Toolbox.Toolbox
RMEnsure Toolbox       1.53 Error Transient requires Toolbox 1.53 to 

and Transient runs happily.

Just as an experiment, I find that MiniTime runs happily on my VRPC 
installation, along with Transient. Very weird: Toolbox there reports 
itself as 1.78!

As I mentioned at the start of this thread, I don't really have any 
use for MiniTime, but trying it has shown that there's something 
remiss here, and I'd like to track it down if I can do, though 
whatever it is doesn't seem to affect the daily use of the computer.

Thanks again for everyone's help.

Best wishes,


Peter Young (zfc Ir) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England

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