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Re: [StrongED] ToggleBD 1.08 available



In message <mpro.ndbvem00ajfr013pk.pittdj@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
          David Pitt <pittdj@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Fred Graute, on 11 Oct, wrote:
>
> > Dear All,
> >
> > ToggleBD v1.08 is now available for download from:
> > http://www.stronged.iconbar.com/fjg/zips/togglebd.zip
>
> [snip]
>
> > Feedback, as always, is most welcome.
>
> It is certainly a very neat application and the source code is a work of art
> in its own right.

Thanks! Yes, the source has received some extra attention as ToggleBD
seems an ideal project to explore for someone wanting to know more about
low level RISC OS stuff, particularly useful for those new to the OS.

> Just a few thoughts.
>
> I have the feeling that it would be useful if the iconbar icon reflected the
> current state in some way, to indicate that that backdrop has been raised
> and therefore that there may be hidden open windows.

Well, I guess one could modify the arrowheads in the icon to indicate
state. Say, top arrowhead coloured red if backdrop is up, bottom red if
backdrop is down.

This is always a bit controversial, should the icon reflect the current
state or what will happen when you click on it?

> If a Choice is not available in the OS in use then perhaps that Choice
> should be greyed out. This refers to the screen edge option.

Ideally, yes but given the mess that the split has caused in version
numbers it's not so easy to devise a proper test. Worse still I have an
implementation of Message_ScreenEdgeNotification for RO 5, can't test it
as my copy of the C compiler seems to be too old - it refuses to build
RISC OS.

> OTOH I cannot get this to work on either OS4.39 VRPC Mac or OS4.42
> A9home.

Do you have the 'bring iconbar forward' option (Shift-F12) active in
Boot > Windows (or wherever it lives in 4.42)?

VRPC may be a problem depending on how the host OS passes the pointer
info to RISC OS. Don't have a copy so can't test.

> OTOH squared, this could be user incompetence. (It took me a while to
> catch on that the two key stroke option was sequential.)

It has to be as we're using modifier keys, with just a single key things
would be awkward. You don't want the backdrop raised just because you
pressed Ctrl-A in StrongED. Therefore first key enables, and second key
activates.

Cheers,
Fred.

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